weather data retrieval
Published on January 2, 2010 By machinehd In OS Customization

Has anyone else noticed that as of Jan 1st, the METAR data doesn't work for most sites to retrieve weather info? Almost every site responds with a Parse error. I've R&R'd Sysmetrix thinking it may be a corrupt data file but the problem persists.  I read some forums saying it's possibly the Weather Channel but Sysmetrix retrieves it's data from NOAA. Does anyone have a line of why this is happening?  NOAA's weather site still uses the same 4-character METAR codes and they don't mention any changes.


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on Jan 03, 2010

The reports we use are the observation reports, not the full reports, as you can see they were never part of the reports we got at the old http site, I went back a good ways looking at old reports, didn't see any rwy stuff, which is probably why sysmetrix doesn't work now.  The new report system is called ADDS from what I can see.

on Jan 03, 2010

I love SysMetrix and all weather reporting gadgets. Weather is very important to me also, my SysMetrix quit showing the weather also.  That is why I came over here to see if anyone else had the same problem.  I hope it gets fixed.

Darco

on Jan 03, 2010

ADDS isn't a report format, it's a digital web service for pilots: http://adds.aviationweather.gov/metars/.  The METAR teletype (yes teletype) format has remained the same since the FAA switched to mostly international standards (see section 3 for code explanations): Aviation Weather Services.  I'm not aware of any txt file issuance that was ever without the RMK block (and it would be irresponsible to disseminate it to pilots without the remarks block since it carries local thunderstorm activity and runway visibility amongst others).  There may have been an aggregator distribution that stripped the RMK section, but as I said I'm not aware.

on Jan 03, 2010

Oh, and we get our information in pieces as you can see from the PDFs.  The only time a full/official weather report comes in is through either telephone or some kind of verifiable digital download like DUATS.

on Jan 03, 2010

Still no reply from N. Decker through the email link on the SysMetrix home page.  I seriously doubt we will hear anything.  As with all good things, they were good while they lasted.  I enjoyed the ability to skin the widget instead of a single weather module taking up valuable real estate on the desktop.

Actually when the METAR text file is opened there is clearly a permissions clause from Winstep.  But the pointer to the METAR data comes from within the SysMetrix executable pointing to the PERL script on NOAA's web site,  Unfortunately not from within the metar data text file.    The line can be changed but I'm not sure if it can be saved.

os1smith: Ok keep us posted.

Thanks,

Citizen Machinehd

on Jan 03, 2010

Well what ever they use to send or didn't send, regardless of it being a format or site, just symatics.  In the end, it still means NOAA changed it's way of doing things and sysmetrix ain't gonna work....lol....how about coming up with a solution.  I have been looking for an alternate site.  Sysmetrix documentation was pretty vague about how the URL function works, but does say alternate sites can be used, but you have to be an advanced user.  I am not, so how about you advanced user guys or gals...help..give us another site that works.

on Jan 03, 2010

I apologize for not helping you.  I thought the link would be helpful in sussing things out.

on Jan 03, 2010

os1smith:  If what you say is true about NOAA changing html sites, it's possible still to change the URL within the weather configuration and possibly save the link.  We'll just have to be vigilant and get the right URL and plug it in so SysMetrix can access the data.  It could happen!! 

on Jan 03, 2010

OK here is where the advanced guys will come in handy.  Someone needs to write a new script.  I got to wondering WHERE was sysmetrix doing all this parsing stuff and where was it maintaining the info.  Because there were no files being changed in the directory, except the ini file, and the wether info wasn't in there..then bingo ..THE REGISTRY...sure enough, sysmetrix does everything in there, that is where he put the script too. 

HKEY_USERS>Software>VB and VB Program settings>Sysmetrix>Program configurations

 

or you can find it like I did, put my METAR code (KLRF) in (you'll need to put yours in) and did a find under edit in the registry. Had to hit it a few times to get there, mostly just poking around.   Under the group METARStringBuffer he put the script to grab the info from the website.  Thinking if someone makes a new script, we can cut and paste that sucker in there...lol...Might work.

on Jan 03, 2010

Never mind, didn't work, I deleted that group METARStringBuffer and it came right back after I openned and closed Sysmetrix.

 

As too the new URL tried it already, the internal sysmetrix program that grabs that info from the METAR code does the same thing ..  Parse Error.. so it seems to be the report itself it doesn't like regardless of where you get it from.

on Jan 03, 2010

Philly0381
Since SysMetrix hasn't received an update is a couple of years this may well be the end of it.  It was a nice program.

I think what we see here is the end of SysMetrix, especially if Mr. Decker won't return emails. 

I think it's time to break into  'Turn out the lights the parties over'. 

on Jan 04, 2010

I think your right there Philly, the URL function in sysmetrix doesn't seem to do anything.  You can delete it or put something different and it does the same thing.  Tried leaving the Mtetarcode field blank and doing a direct point in the URL for my weather, didn't work still get the Parse error.  Oh well time to come up with a different gadget for the weather.

on Jan 05, 2010

Perhaps it will be more efficient to send a mail to Xymantix (wich will be signed by different users for example ...) and ask him to solve the trouble ?

on Jan 09, 2010

Ok I gave up, looks like Sysmetrix is dead.  It was good while it lasted.  I switched to Rainmeter, took about a day and half to recreate my skin I had in Sysmetrix, but it works better then the SYS and Rainmeter seems to be much more powerful meter program.  Sure it is scripted not object oriented like sysmetrix.  I have been using DesktopX for about five years now, the old LCARS Star Trek theme.  I love Star Trek..lol...also love that nobody know how to do anything on my computer , but me...hehehehe, but DX is a little slow and hard to setup any system info, so I had made a sysmetrix skin to acompany my dx theme the long skinny part at the bottom was what I had to recreate, tons of info being displayed including cpu temps, fan speeds, the comm link is functional, any activity on the network including internet changes to Comm Link Activity instead of Comm Link Status, and shows the I/O activity on the right.  So if your on the fence about Sysmetrix, my advise, go ahead and switch Rainmeters great, steep learning curve, but worth it.

 

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on Jan 14, 2010

http://www.xymantix.com/sysmetrix/download.html  I got this from Nicholas Decker.  He fixed it.

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